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- November 5, 2008
And your point is...?
Oh, that's right, you don't have one! All you can do is mindlessly repeat everything FALSE NOISE tells you.
News fer ya, Bright Boy...you lost!
Cry me a river, then go drown yourself in it, Sissy Boy.
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastNovember 5, 2008 - 4:21pmSo - Drupal Screwed Up Again and Duplicated My Post?
I gather, Cap'n, the first comment I am now seeing was a response to yet another TrollBoy fit...?
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By drdarkenyNovember 5, 2008 - 5:10pmFree Spech is for Adults, TrollBoy
As any court, principal or Juvie officer in the land will tell you.
You are a nasty little brat who deserves to be spanked, and sent to bed without supper.
Selah.
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By drdarkenyNovember 5, 2008 - 5:25pmAll this angerspeech
Drdarke, do you like talking to yourself? Or did your mighty utterings cause the subject of your exhalations to suffer a massive spasm of sphincter pucker and vanish?
Before anyone gets sore in the defense of DR, here, he knows me.
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By tpwestcottNovember 6, 2008 - 10:13amHi, Sweetie....
Everybody, meet my wife - who finally gave in and decided to join after all. :)
When Bob at aarsupport@gmail.com deletes a trolling post, there's no way to insert a placeholder post letting people know a post's been deleted. So sometimes, you end up w/a lot of replies to a troll, but no troll itself - which can often be amusing, and occasionally upsetting to people unaware of the deletion assuming the response is about them. :/
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By drdarkenyNovember 6, 2008 - 12:19pmDidn't TrollBoy Have an Almost-Reasonable Post Here...?
No, I'm not being disingenuous - I didn't e-mail Bob about it b/c I was deciding how to respond to it (well, racist spin on my nick aside, which he's still using). I find his current tone mildly amusing - as if none of us remember his ALL-UPPER CASE INCOHERENT SHRIEKING RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC RANTS!!!!! Even my wife remembers them - mainly b/c he's a big reason it took her so long to join.
Listening to TRMS radio on my iPod where Rachel's talking w/Bender - and I have to laugh b/c she sounds just like me regarding the DLC and "Dem elite" types, waving an axe around bellowing "PUN-ISH! PUN-ISH! PUN-ISH!" Okay, Rachel would be more likely to use a rapier than an axe - but I think she's feeling just as...ambivalent as Cap'n, Polly and I feel about Emmanuel and what he presages for Obama's governance.
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By drdarkenyNovember 7, 2008 - 11:35amPssssst
For fear of opening up this subject again, I really kinda like the idea of Rahm being the front guy for Obama. He's a tough SOB, he knows the lay of the land AND he and Obama are friends. And in that job, you really NEED someone who you trust has your back.
Heck, just look at how the Republicans are hating on him already, they are NOT happy...and to me, that is a good thing. (how terribly partisan of me to say such a thing...)
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By Polly TicsNovember 7, 2008 - 12:54pmI Think We've Have to Agree to Disagree on This, Polly
I believe ability and intelligence is guided by the soul - and Rahm Emmanuel's has a squidgy, slimy, self-centered little soul that may as well belong to the RNC.
That he will be the Gatekeeper to President Obama's presence is - worrying....
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By drdarkenyNovember 8, 2008 - 1:16pmIF this is the worst of our disagreements,
than we are in good shape!
I would hardly worry as we agree far more than not, besides a little disagreement amongst friends always makes things that much more interesting.
I have been terribly busy the last couple of days and haven't been able to respond to your other posts as yet...but will do so sometime this weekend. (by the way, thanks for the petition signing you did on Prop 8!)
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By Polly TicsNovember 8, 2008 - 1:28pmWELCOME!
So glad you finally decided to join us all! You see, we are only flesh eating cretins a few times each day, whereas most of the time we try to approach intelligent banter, on occasion we are even friendly.
It is nice for you to join the fray!
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 2:47pmI think so
Hard to keep track anymore...not that I'm complaining.
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 5, 2008 - 5:22pmI Really WAS Trying to Give Up Troll-Swatting For the Election
I feel like a Catholic going back to smoking and drinking during Lent - and I'm a lapsed Methodist, so I shouldn't feel Catholic guilt! :D
TrollBoy's getting blatantly racist and homophobic again, isn't he? I swear it's like Tourette's Syndrome with him - he just can't shut up and go someplace where his gibbering might be more welcome....
::snicker!:: I suddenly pictured MONTY PYTHON'S "Gumby Island" - with Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Bob Grant, Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin all shuffling around in highwater short pants, Wellies and white handkerchiefs over their heads, barking with incoherent rage about nothing anyone can make sense of all the time! Yeah, I think TrollBoy would feel right at home there.... >:)
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By drdarkenyNovember 5, 2008 - 5:47pmSo, TrollBoy, Stopped Shaving Your Palms Long Enough to Troll?
Great Merciful Goddess, TrollBoy - you truly are as stupid as you are petty, vindictive, small-minded and mean-spirited.
Remind me again why we are under any obligation whatsoever to respect your "free speech rights" - when you are so clearly a whinging brat who just wants to throw a tantrum b/c you didn't get your way?
PS: Great Picture, LI. :D
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By drdarkenyNovember 5, 2008 - 5:08pmMethinks some troll got banished to his bridge again...
As they melt down, one by one.
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastNovember 5, 2008 - 5:13pmKudos to Bob!
He must be working non-stop to filter out all the boneheadery from our most persistent serial capitalizer..
Yes; "boneheadery" is a word; I know, 'cause I just made it up.
Now...back to what I was doing...
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 5, 2008 - 4:39pmRe: Stinky's "Russian Threat"
I think he means this: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/06/world/europe/06russia.html?ref=europe
Interesting to note that the proposed missile deployment by Russia seems to be in retaliation for US missile deployment in Eastern Europe. So who's threatening who? Also interesting: the Russian President is also lashing out at people who want to let the government interfere with "free individuals" and "free enterprise". Damn, can't even trust the commies anymore.
:winky:
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 5, 2008 - 4:58pmDear Russian President Putin - er, Medvedev ;)
I probably should not tell you this - but if you are intending to intimidate the USofA by moving your nuclear missiles around, I think you would do MUCH better by moving them to your side of the Bering Strait, aiming them at the following locations and painting the following messages on their sides:
- Wasilla, Alaska - 61.581N, 149.439W; "I'm flying over your house now, Sarah - Love, Vladdy!"
- Girdwood, Alaska - 60.942N,149.166W; "Ted is Wrong - Internet is not series of tubes, but Moose and Squirrel!"
>:)
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By drdarkenyNovember 5, 2008 - 7:18pmParanthetically - Has Anyone Noticed the New Russian President
name, "Medvedev", is very close to asshat movie critic-turned-asshat NeoKon "pundit" Michael Medved? ::strokes chin thoughtfully::
So it's true that the Neoconservative Movement really is A Communist Plot to Destroy America From Within, then?
Hey, if McCain thought he could get away with it.... >:)
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By drdarkenyNovember 8, 2008 - 12:49pmI've always wondered...
...if "Rush" (as in Limbaugh) was a diminutive for "Russian"...
:winky:
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 8, 2008 - 3:06pmDidn't Rachel once say ...
... that Maddow was an Americanization of Medvedev (or some other closely related Russian name)?
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By chemgirlNovember 8, 2008 - 3:10pmAccording to North Tipperary Genalogy Center, "Maddow" is Irish
Which would explain Rachel's fondness for cheap whiskey and dive bars! :D
Also apparently, though less clear, "Maddow" may be related to "Maddox" - as in the late unlamented Dixiecrat and bigot Senator Lester?
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By drdarkenyNovember 8, 2008 - 8:37pmAll California Same-Sex Couples Invited to Marry in Connecticut
All California Same-Sex Couples Invited to Marry in Connecticut
Wedding Bells Will Ring in Connecticut on November 12th!
http://www.lmfct.org/site/PageServer?pagename=home
Yesterday, Connecticut voters rejected a constitutional convention to amend the CT constitution by a margin of 60% to 40%!
Love Makes a Family proudly collaborated with over 50 organizations to defeat this ballot question.
Read Anne Stanback's press statement here. http://www.lmfct.org/site/DocServer/LMFpressreleaseConConVictoryandgains...
Read the news stories:
State Voters Decide Not to Change Constitution (Associated Press)
http://www.connpost.com/ci_10900509
Constitutional Convention Rejected (Hartford Courant)
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-2conquest.artnov05,0,779871.stor...
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By RonNLCNovember 5, 2008 - 6:11pmlower than a farm animal
Hey there Ron - thanks for the invite. I may just have to move to CT or MA!!!! Very disappointed with the result of Prop 8 in Ca and too many mixed emotions. Looks like the churches, especially the Mormons and the Black community in Southern Cal really scared the ignorant populations into voting Yes - so, so maddening. Thank you to the Northern Cal folks that really tried to maintain our right to live as 1st class citizens - even the farm animals in California are now granted more rights than us. I'm depressed!
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By cactiNovember 5, 2008 - 6:48pmLAMBDA Legal Challenges Prop 8
http://www.lambdalegal.org/publications/articles/proposition-8-challenge...
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By Polly TicsNovember 5, 2008 - 7:01pmPolly, What WAS Prop. 8 Exactly?
I gather if Lambda, the ACLU and NCLR are challenging it, it's not a California Constitutional Amendment but a law? Or is it something altogether different?
If it's a successful Constitutional Amendment (as horndog or coondog or bigdawg the "intellectual" conservative seems to think on the other thread, while nattering about "judicial activism" - you mean like the Supreme Court ruling GW Bush won in 2000?), I would assume that it could not be challenged in court on Constitutional grounds. I would also assume it would take a LOT more than just a popular vote to amend the CA Constitution.
I lived in San Diego for ten years through high school and college - you'd think I'd know this.... :/
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By drdarkenyNovember 5, 2008 - 7:27pmDoc, it has been a long battle that really began years ago
Proposition 8 was a statewide initiative that claimed California must negate a previous Court decision stating same-sex marriage is a constitutionally-protected right in California. A majority of the justices of the states Supreme Court affirmed such in May this year. Since it has passed (which it did thanks to Mormon money and a huge majority of African American support), the state constitution will have a new addendum which states, "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." It takes away basic civil rights already established for same sex couples (however it allows previous marriages to stand).
Well I'm no lawyer (so perhaps Essic can comment here) but as far as how the initiative can or can't be turned over, it is my understanding that the fight will be over whether the measure itself is constitutional. LAMDA Legal is currently taking it on and will be fighting it in the state Supreme Court. Here are some links that might shed more light on the subject.
Discussion of Background & Previous Gay Marriage Measures & Prop 8:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_California
Here is the Home Page for Those Who Dreamt This Up:
www.protectmarriage.com/
More on the Measure Itself:
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_8_(2008)
The Current Battle Between LAMDA & Prop 8:
www.lambdalegal.org/publications/articles/proposition-8-challenged.html
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 2:56pmThanks, Polly
So can what has been amended be un-amended, should the court challenge fail...?
Personally, I think MSFT, Google and Hollywood should move to Vancouver, or Connecticut, or Massachusetts or someplace else where same-sex marriage is legal - and let California twist in the wind for its homophobic intolerance. See how lovely the state is to live in when most of their biggest taxpayers, most of whom are gay-friendly, aren't there any longer, and it goes back to desert b/c nobody can afford the water to keep it going any longer.
Let the Guhvenator get the taxes to keep the state going out of the f@#king Mormon Tabernacles or Catholic Cathedrals.... Oh, right! They're religions, and thus can't be taxed! Enjoy your theocracy, California - I know I will....
>:)
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By drdarkenyNovember 6, 2008 - 7:53pmOh my Doc, that is MY question as well
To address "your" question:
Well, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on or off TV, however I have "read" this has been done before. (Essic are you around?) Whether or not that holds up in court, well I suppose that depends on who is doing the holding. What I DO know is that there are some strong forces out there now who will challenge this prop and no matter who may say what, I DO believe that it stands a good chance of a reversal.
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 8:36pmI Pray You Are Right, Polly
I got a disheartening-sounding "We will not give up" e-mail today from No on 8, so I was worried - and had no time to check on it further b/c I'm running around doing stuff the next several days that sort of got shoved aside for Election Fever.
I think Essic would probably say s/he is not licensed to practice in the State of California, and isn't up on how California ballot initiatives work since they work differently from state to state. (Not clear on Essic's gender, sorry - the English language desperately needs a gender-neutral pronoun less derogatory than "it".)
Approps of nothing - AGGGHH! I'm watching Rachel's head superimposed badly on Chuck Todd's body! I think my lame PhotoShop job superimposing Rachel onto David Tennant's Doctor Who worked better, frankly - and that's saying something not good about MSNBC's Tech Directors....
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By drdarkenyNovember 7, 2008 - 12:43amYeah, that was weird.
"Rachel's head superimposed badly on Chuck Todd's body"
It was funny for a few seconds... But after a couple of minutes, it started to creep me out!
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By A GNovember 7, 2008 - 7:20amThat's all we get from Rachel on prop 8?
That it passed?! No %#@&ing kidding.
Maybe I'm taking this whole issue a bit too personally. Maybe I shouldn't take every single Yes on 8 sign as a personal affront, and maybe I should just get over being mad as hell that I've just been relegated to second-class citizenship by popular vote, and I should jump on the happy bandwagon.
Don't get me wrong -- I know that Obama's election is huge, and way more important for the country than what happened with prop 8. I'm happy and relieved, and I even teared up during his acceptance speech. But I and a lot of other people I know just aren't up to all the cheering and celebration.
Sounds like Ron finds it important enough to discuss further. Glad someone does.
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By ashbNovember 5, 2008 - 7:10pmTake a lesson.
Take a lesson from second class citizens before you (Woman, Blacks, every ethnic group that ever immigrated)
MAKE SOME NOISE!... Use non-violent civil disobedience.
In the past, if that didn't work, they'd just start breaking shit.
America seems very resistant to full rights for this last group of citizens... but no more resistant than they were to full rights for blacks.
Don't get depressed... GET PISSED!
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By A GNovember 5, 2008 - 7:48pmMaybe she's too exhausted
Maybe she's too exhausted and depressed. She said she hasn't slept for a week.
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By tpwestcottNovember 6, 2008 - 10:09amPlease forgive my postrational lashing out
I shouldn't post when I'm angry. I'll add that to my other rule - no posting when intoxicated (though I usually ignore that one).
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By ashbNovember 6, 2008 - 3:45pm8- )
You and oh so many others!
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 6:15pmashb - Listen to Rachel's Friday Radio Show
I think she needed time to process, and check up on a few things, before she let fly.
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By drdarkenyNovember 10, 2008 - 12:19pmI did listen
And I was glad to hear the discussion, but I was wrong to be ticked off that she didn't talk about it the other day. I've always considered myself to be quite rational, and I'm surprised at how anger sent me so off kilter.
When Huffington Post ran a story on Rachel's interview with Obama, someone posted a comment calling her a sellout because she didn't ask Obama about his stance on gay marriage.
I promptly responded that it was absurd to call her a sellout because she didn't ask about that one issue. But then a few days later I find myself posting something that sort of followed the same absurd logic.
There is still a lot of anger in the gay community over prop 8. We need to figure out how to funnel these emotions into something positive.
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By ashbNovember 10, 2008 - 3:14pmTrust in Rachel on Prop 8
nm
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By chemgirlNovember 10, 2008 - 4:00pmi think we need
a proposition against adultery and divorce.
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By scottso360November 5, 2008 - 11:47pmI think we need
a proposition against moralistic superstition.
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 6, 2008 - 11:52amI'll Vote For That! :)
No more laws enshrining homophobia, racism, sexism, "Intelligent Design" and other bogus pseudosciences...well, except for Pastafarianism, b/c the world NEEDS more pirates to save the Ozone Layer! :D
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By drdarkenyNovember 6, 2008 - 12:10pmI have been touched...
...by His Noodly Appendage!
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 6, 2008 - 12:20pmOH MY
You just made me blush!
;- )
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 1:39pmMaddow on "The Colbert Report" tonight-I can't wait!!
I'm going to have to stay up past my bedtime to watch this!! Also, "People" gave "TRMS" 3 out of 4 stars in their TV section, they wrote that it was refreshing to have a pundit who wasn't mean spirited and was intelligent. I know, it's embarrassing to admit I read "People", but I had to do something while I was waiting for my van (yes a mini-van, I am a soccer mom after all) at the dealership this morning, they had "Fox News" on, so I had to read something!
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By ohsoccermomNovember 6, 2008 - 1:20pmOops, I meant the present tense...
"isn't mean spirited and is intelligent".
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By ohsoccermomNovember 6, 2008 - 1:25pmI wouldn't worry about it...
... Have you met "Quetron"??
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By A GNovember 6, 2008 - 1:29pmDRATS!
Another double post! What the heck is going on in here these days?
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 2:31pmA G, Did you mean
QUESTRON instead of Quetron?
If not (and pardon my ignorance in this), please what or who is this thing called Quetron?
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 2:30pmHa!... You haven't lived!
"Quetron" is a barely functional, illiterate Ditto-Head that haunts this forum on occasion. He has been absent for some time now, except for a brief appearance recently.
He is known, not just for being stupid, but for posts that are utterly incomprehensible. He may as well be speaking Klingon.
On rare occasions, he is nearly lucid... not intelligent, but at least lucid, which makes me suspect much of his... Ummm... "personality" is substance induced.
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By A GNovember 6, 2008 - 2:50pmThanks for the Clarification
I haven't become "aware" of Quetron and from reading your description, I think that IS a good thing.
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 3:33pmThanks for the heads-up!
Maddow and Colbert!... two geniuses fencing... this oughta be good!
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By A GNovember 6, 2008 - 1:27pmY'know, seeing Colbert jump like that...
...makes me wonder where Rachel stuck that foil.
:winky:
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 6, 2008 - 1:34pm.
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By A GNovember 6, 2008 - 2:07pmBrought to you by the producers of...
...Idiocracy! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/)
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 6, 2008 - 2:18pmMaddow on Colbert Show
I just watched the show. Hilarious one. Rachel looked so cute. I hope Ellen Degeneres invite Rachel to her show soon.
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By candidNovember 7, 2008 - 6:11pmNever let it be said...
...that Ye Cap'n isn't slow to catch up. Today I ordered my copy of Dreams of My Father, not just because The Big-Eared Kid is President now (although I still can't get used to seeing his picture and thinking "That One's the Pres"), and that this might be a good way to delve into his character, but mostly because of this interview with Toni Morrison:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081106/ap_en_ot/writers_and_obama
Imagine: a POTUS who not can read books--even likes to do so--but actually writes them! And if Ms Morrison is right, does it well.
Intelligent, literate, respected by the world--hell, if he can only repair one-quarter of what the OUT-GOING Microcephalus-in-Chief has broken, I'll be inclined to forgive him much just for those aforementioned qualities. I might even forgive the ears.
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 6, 2008 - 1:45pmI think we just did...
My, my, my, Capn you "almost" sound like a true fan of this man.
; - )
Heck, I know we will most certainly be disappointed in some (many?) of his decisions, but I am confident that he actually does have the nations interest in mind instead of just a few wealthy friends. And yes, it is such a relief....AT LONG LAST!
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 2:24pm"True fan"?
Come on, Polly, the sub-theme of my post revolves around "if". Keep in mind, I haven't read his book yet, plus so far the only presidential decision Obama's made that I'm aware of is choosing Rahm Emanuel for his Chief of Staff--not a good first step, by a long shot.
That said: If he writes well, if he writes true (a redundancy?), and if he doesn't show himself to be a complete sell-out by July 21, then I'll give him his props.
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 6, 2008 - 3:06pmAh come on...
Capn I was just kidding with you as I am well aware of your feelings toward the man and many of his policies, many of which I may even agree with. I preface that statement by saying "may" only because it depends on the day and how my stomach is holding up.
However, I am curious why you don't think Emanuel is a good choice for Chief of Staff. I don't particularly "like" the guy, but he most definitely IS a pit bull (without the lipstick) and I think that is a great attribute for this particular President elect. Obama can remain the cool and reasonable man you finally get to once you have gotten through the warrior some call Emanuel. It's the old "Good Cop, Bad Cop" type of thing and one that just might work to Obama's advantage.
So, why the hesitancy on Rahm?
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 3:29pmBecause...
...he's DLC, which to me means "Republican Lite". Which further means that as COS he's going to have a great deal of influence in who gets to see and talk to the President, ie, corporate lobbyists and other such scum.
Now maybe all Obama is doing here is some real politik, giving Emmnauel the spot to assuage the right-wing of the party--sadly, they remain a potent force, no matter what one might think of them. But I'd just as soon he found someone with a little less baggage. Like Toni Morrison, maybe.
:winky:
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 6, 2008 - 4:13pmI am no centrist &
I totally agree with you about Rahm's political affiliations, BUT this specific job is really more about him helping Obama day to day instead of dictating policy. Personally, I am not a fan of the DLC, blue Dog Dems or of the conservative D wing, but policy aside, I do think that Rahm's particular abilities make a good fit to Obama and may very well help, especially during the transition. He knows the people involved, he knows how to get things done and he is one heck of a heavy duty fighter as his nickname suggests (Rahm-bo).
Also, your point on Obama doing some politik-ing on this subject could very well be true and if that couples with a guy whose function fits well with what is needed in this crucial slot, than I say great...go to it Rahm.
You know, the issue of Obama's new hires brings to mind the question of just who he is planning to include in his new administration. This will be a fascinating ride, no?
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 6:12pmI Have To Agree w/Cap'n, Emanuel is of the Clinton-LIEberman DLC
For my money, they should be given the back of Obama's hand for how they destroyed the progressive branch of Democratic Party for nearly two decades - and almost destroyed it for good. I lost all respect for any of them and their weaselly, "compromising" ways when President Bill Clinton signed, in short order, NAFTA, the Telecommunications Deregulations Act (w/the misnamed "Communications Decency Amendment" chaser!) and the Defense of Marriage Act. We're still fighting a mainly defensive war for individual liberties and equal rights for ALL people over a decade later - and losing as often as winning (ask the gay people of California!) - when an iota of genuine principle and testicular fortitude on the DLC's and especially the Clintons' part might have driven the hypocritical scumbags of the Khrister Right back into their hate-filled ratholes for the remaining life of our Republic.
I don't know how Obama will govern - but I believe he is a pragmatist, rather than an antiliberal ideologue like Rahm-Bo, Holy Joe the Quisling, James "I'm Sleeping w/the Enemy!" Carville, and Bill&Hil....
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By drdarkenyNovember 6, 2008 - 7:43pmWho Doesn't Agree with the Capn?
Oh cover your eyes and ears Grandmum, I would hate for you to witness what I am about to type...
Sometimes it's not about the politics, but about the ability!
I know, I know, how simplistic, how idiotically droll and open to a kill, but nevertheless, I truly believe that Rahm Emanuel is a great manager, is one heck of a tough son of a gun, knows where the bodies are buried AND most importantly of all, IS a very good friend of Obama's. Now, not having ever have been a part of the White House or DC clique, I can't speak from experience, but I can speak to what I have heard about Rahm's abilities, connections AND his friendship to Barack.
From what I understand, to be a good Chief of Staff, you need someone with whom you can trust with your new born baby. It is (or should be) about someone with whom you believe will have your back no matter what may come up in that grand little district we call DC. This slot is about someone who can truly serve the Presidents best interests to heck with everyone else..
Now having said all of this, you need to understand that I have never been a fan of Rahm's personality, his politics or his hair (OK, so I'm a hair snob...)
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 8:25pmThe job's not over --- Senate races still need your help
It's been a great week for America --- but the campaign isn't over just yet. The race goes on in the Senate, with recounts under way in some critical races and a runoff election scheduled in Georgia.
You've all given so much in the general election - but this game has gone into the 10th inning, and your support is still needed in three critical races: Mark Begich's quest to replace the odious and corrupt Republican incumbent Ted Stevens in Alaska, where votes are being recounted; Al Franken's campaign to remove Bush's fair-haired boy Norm Coleman from his Minnesota senate seat, also going through a recount; and Jim Martin's December 2 runoff election in Georgia against the reprehensible Republican incumbent Saxby Chambliss.
You can contribute to these campaigns through my ActBlue page:
http://www.actblue.com/page/2008_recount_runoff
Anything that you could contribute, even $5, would be a tremendous help toward finishing an important job - giving Barack Obama a solidly Democratic Senate that will support his progressive programs. Can I ask you to donate today?
http://www.actblue.com/page/2008_recount_runoff
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By airboyNovember 6, 2008 - 5:50pmcurrent blog?
Does Rachel think her blog gets updated daily or is there another blog that is part of her MSNBC gig. I just heard her tell listeners on the radio show that there is a link to something that she and David Bender were talking about but this blog hasn't been changed since Wednesday am - just wondering?
cacti
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By cactiNovember 6, 2008 - 6:35pmThat happens a lot
Thank you for mentioning it. Is there some other place for links that we don't know about?
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By ashbNovember 6, 2008 - 7:09pmcacti, this IS her current blog for her RADIO show
Since you are not specifying what you are looking FOR, it is impossible for anyone to really help you resolve your question.
This blog is primarily for her RADIO show (as Air America is a RADIO network), while her TV gig should be researched at MSNBC (her television contact) and can be linked to here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/
IF you have a question, it is always best to actually "ask that question" so that people can help you answer your concerns.
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By Polly TicsNovember 6, 2008 - 7:42pmA New World
Hello Ms Maddow:
I don't know if you are as happy as I am with our new President elect. However, yesterday (Wednesday) I remembered you asking your friend who gives you the amusing tidbits, just before you close. You were wondering why it was so quiet in the studio after the news of President elect Obama's victory.
I think I know why. After watching Mr. Chris Matthews during the election season, I thought he was for Mr Obama. However, his face fell after Mr. Olbermann broke the news that the President elect was Mr. Obama. There were others in the studio who came across as McCain supporters. Mr. Olbermann seemed to be the only one who was overjoyed at the news.
Tonight, you were not sure that hiring Mr. Emmanuel was the right move. I think we have studied Mr. Obama enough to know that he has a mind of his own. He listens to people and ultimately, makes up his own mind. I wouldn't fear Mr. Emmanuel influencing his decision, regarding Health Care. I don't see Mr. Obama as someone who can be influenced against his will, if he does not agree with the choice.
I think Mr. Emmanuel knows that the final decision will always rest with the President, whatever his (Mr. Emmanuel's) ulterior motives might be. I don't see him influencing Mr. Obama. He smiles easily and is soft spoken at times, but I see that steely side of him, just below the surface. He will quickly let people know where he stands, when it comes to issues near and dear to him.
This is just my opinion.
Be well.
Janet Elisa
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By angelfirempNovember 6, 2008 - 11:41pminterview with Obama
First, I've not been around this page in well over a year. Secondly, I'm blown away by the makeup and fact that you interviewed Obama. Spot on. Thirdly, I'm deeply touched that he took the time to point out that your anger and interest in acting like there's a cadre of Republicans out there trying to ruin things for Democrats makes you look like you're itching for a fight. That part in the interview where he says he's doing something right? That part where he's patient and kind, and suggests that by not closing the door, and leaving the conversattion open to people who don't spend all day thinking like he thinks? That's the part of the conversation that matters.
After so many years. Fourteen years. Of thinking there was an enemy out there and it was the man, the sexist, classist, incapable of changing anything man--after fourteen years of thinking that---I took a step back and realized I was shutting myself off from a lot of the world by thinking I had all the answers. That's what made everyone all weepy in his acceptance speech--even if you don't agree with me, I'm on your side. We're all on the same side. The whole country. Peace, joy, friend, foe, black, white, gay, not-so-gay.
Sometimes listening to someone else's story is a whole lot more productive than trying to find someone to scapegoat . . . I'm so grateful he won. That's all I'm sayin. . .
And nice job with the interview.
peace, light, and bacon grease, y'all.
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By _p_u_n_k_s_k_i_...November 7, 2008 - 5:37am_p_u_n_s_k_i_ !!!
Welcome back!
"Fear. It's the oldest tool of power. If you're distracted by the fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above."--Fox Mulder
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By capn_crustyNovember 7, 2008 - 9:42amRachel on Colbert!!!!!!!
A triumph!
I normally can't stand Colbert's schtick...O'Reilly is annoying and Colbert lampooning O'Reilly is JUST as annoying. He gets great guests on and doesn't let them speak. Finally, he lets Rachel speak! I love that people can see that the high school principal who hosts TRMS TV show is young, hip, brilliant and REAL. Even Colbert knows that with a guest like Rachel, sometimes he needs to ease off on the schtick and let the guest shine!
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By LarrynowNovember 7, 2008 - 9:56amIt was awesome.
Personally, I love the Colbert Report. Plus, I've sometimes thought of Rachel as having some parallels to him:
They both used to do segments on the show before theirs, even occasionally hosting that show when the regular host was out.
They both graduated from that old show to having their own show.
They both do a "Toss" at the end of the preceding show that connects to their show.
They both have a name that can be pronounced two different ways. Pronouncing it the preferred way makes their name rhyme with the other word in the title of their show.
All little coincidences, but I get a kick out of them. Plus, I think there's a lot of overlap between the people who like the Colbert Report and the people who might like